Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! Irving Police Chief Jeff Spivey hailed authorities for pursuing justice in the case for more than a decade. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! What they reported to us is that she came into their care in 1999 where she was found in need, in the streets in Puerto Rico, where she had been wandering around. In pleading guilty, Islam Said admitted that evidence proved he committed the crimes charged in the superseding indictment filed in November 2020. You murdered your girls," she said. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. Until next time, cheers. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. Omg so well put! This woman killed and is where she belongs! According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. Yes, documentaries probably do misrepresent evidence, and many may respond to that misrepresentation, but beneath that is jury judgment, and while courts can be wrong they are usually right. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! According to Arletta Wright, Patricia needs to be driven because she has been legally blind since the age of 16. Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. Or did they? Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. They are a joke. False. 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The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with Before receiving her final sentence, Patricia Prue, 35, of Waterford addressed the court saying that her biggest regret was not seeking help for her mental health issues earlier. Jenkins' assailant Patricia Prue was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on Friday after deciding to plead guilty the day before to charges of aggravated attempted murder, kidnapping and conspiracy. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. Said tried to blame the FBI for not searching for an unknown person, he said, was the real killer. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. You know whats interesting? Prosecutors said Said, a native of Egypt, was angry that his daughters were dating and that the boys were not Muslim. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. I think shes guilty for sure. WebIn burst a group of men and women with their guns drawn. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! Patty is my cousin. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. I have to wake up every morning with the freedom that God gave me knowing that my sister is incarcerated for life and that my lies put her there, Larry wrote in a letter to the LAPD after he had been freed. I come home one night, and shes just gone, and nobody knows where shes at, Bob Kopta, husband of Patricia Kopta, said at a press conference reported by Pittsburgh-based NBC affiliate WPXI. They broke up in 1993. They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? While Patricia does not qualify for medical parole, she can still file for executive clemency or compassionate release, which she has already done and which was met with more resistance from Gov. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. Dial-a-problem. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. Owens said because of what Said did, she will never get to see her daughters grow up. Lawrence Slaughter is currently serving a life sentence in Calipatria State Prison for the murder of Jerome Scott as well. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. And Patricia wasnt all edges. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. I would have liked better her being put to death! They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. The couple moved into Andrews sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. Lead Prosecutor Lauren Black called Said a true narcissist who believed he was smarter than everybody else. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? During the tour Alfey was able to slip away into a room that was made for a little boy. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. Jenkins at one time had hired Allen Prue to plow her driveway. At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. Alfey says that the next thing he knew his mother was being handcuffed and taken to the county jail even though the woman who was showing the model home was given back the stolen property. Her mother was married to my uncle. In 1981, Patricia Wrights second husband, Willie Jerome Scott, was found stabbed to death in his mobile home park in Los Angeles. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree In your future life in prison I trust that not a day goes by in which you won't revisit your crime.". Wow. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. "As horrible as Ms. Jenkins death was, it should stand for something," Marsicovetere said. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. I thought the same. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. And why would the judge not let the information about Jerome being a homosexual be known to the jury.. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. It was total shock. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. Patricia said she didn't have plans to attend Weinstein's trial since she was spending time with her 16-year-old daughter, Harlow, but praised Rosanna's "bravery." Judges may have the discretion to reduce a felony in a wobbler case to a misdemeanor. Thats my life.. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Not normal folks obsessed ones do. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. She led a normal life, with a job as an elevator operator at the Art Institute of Pittsburgh, until 1984, when her religious vision occurred. Emailus. Browns action to grant clemency was rescinded after discovering that Patricia Wright had two prior felonies from when her son stole two 99-cent toys and a hand towel from an open house 15 years earlier. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). She was also accused of breaking into barns, stealing horses, and underfeeding the ones she owned. What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. This article is little more than fiction. In another peculiar turn of events, LAPD had failed to preserve the evidence when Jerome Scotts body was found two days after his murder. She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. But in October 1998, the LAPD established a cold case task force and reopened the murder case 17 years after Jerome Scotts death. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. Said's defense attorney said he will be filing a notice to appeal. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. I do. FBI agents watched them deliver grocery bags to the house and then followed them to a shopping center in Southlake where they dumped trash from the home, prosecutors said. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Pat had a string of bad relationships in her past and was not happy. The trial was taking so much of my time. Justice is about uncovering the truth. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. For more on the Katrinak murder case, you can watch Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction for free on YouTube. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. On closer inspection, he saw it was the body of a woman. Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. According to the autopsy report, Patricias husband, Jerome Scott, had only a few months to live because of a health problem involving a bloodless liver and pancreatic fibrosis. Throughout the process, she heard many community members waiting for the proceedings to be over. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. Is Dallas becoming unaffordable due to rising housing costs, inflation and stagnating pay? Patricia was relieved when police took him for custody after 12 years of her daughter's murder. You took my family all in one night," she said. I've been thinking about them the last two weeks every morning when I wake up and close my eyes," she said. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. One on one? If I rolled my eyes any harder they might fall out. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Islam Said, Yasseins 32-year-old nephew, pleaded guilty to the same charges last month in connection with the effort to protect Yaser Said, 63, who had been a fugitive since 2008. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) She was falsely convicted of killing her husband when the Los Angeles Police Department reopened a 17-year-old cold case after coercing two witnesses to tape a confession pegging Patricia Wright and family friend Lawrence Slaughter as the killers. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. Unbloody vehicle. Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. The first rule of a murder is motive. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. I have never seen anything this egregious in all my years.. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. Required fields are marked *. A knife and the clothing worn by the victim potentially had all of the answers that would have led to the real murderer, but that evidence was destroyed by the LAPD. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. Have a tip we should know? But none of those charges ever stuck. Too many people testified as to the type of person she was. The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. Marcelin said the detectives, referring to Patricia Wright, asked, Dont you want that [expletive] off the street?. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. Youre absolutely right!! It seems so, according to you. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year.
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