Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. containers. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Makes 900fps out of my G17. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Display as a link instead, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. This is a flattened spherical powder. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. containers. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. I do know its about mid charge range tho. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. YMMV. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. By Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Shellholders: Lee #19 As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. and 8 lb. Obligatory start low and work your way up A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. 3 grains? Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 Loading is always at your own risk. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. Use the LRN and you will be good. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. Appreciate the input. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Paste as plain text instead, I wonder why the difference. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. In Pistols and Revolvers.. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. Early on, its pointy full-metal-jacket rounds gave the 9x19mm a reputation as a horrible antipersonnel round. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. and 8 lb. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. And how are you metering 3.3gr? I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Save Share. The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. Upgrade efforts paused for now. C.O.A.L. My brother gave me some Titegroup. Is this not a safe load? (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. You say that now. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Baseball won over for a time when it took him to Gonzaga University on scholarship as a pitcher for the Bulldogs. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. I havent had a problem yet. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. Skip this one, you can do better. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Both Plated round nose and JHP. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. Can't keep enough at the house. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. Upload or insert images from URL. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. Clear editor. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Nov 7, 2015. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. JavaScript is disabled. Your previous content has been restored. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. I am gonna give it a try. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. I am also using the Xtreme bullets. behind a 115gr. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. Thanks guys. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. What is your favorite firearm to load for? Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold!