The Colt fanciers had .45's, usually in the New Service model, unless they were cowboy fans who had SAA's. The guys that worked in the paper mills and machine shops had 1917's. If you want-ed a handgun with power, the GI surplus .45 ACP in the 1917 was the only thing you could afford to shoot as reloading "ca'tridges" was unknown. Weights in parenthesis are as-cast from wheelweights. With the 45 Colt, IMR 4227 is almost magical in being able to provide excellent accuracy when other powders will not. Powders include Contest void where prohibited by law. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. barrel differ from a 4 4/5 revolver by selected. Stocky's Owner Don Bitz walks David Faubion through the company's new rifle stocks for 2023. These figures correspond with the many other pre-World War II guns that I have slugged. It was outfitted with adjustable sights, a 5.5-inch barrel, one-piece checkered walnut stocks and was timed precisely with an outstanding trigger pull. I certainly dont know of anything in the lower 48 that cannot be handled with this load. Both of these are plainbased Keith-style bullets, and their numbers are #310.451 and #325.454, with the first three digits giving the approximate bullet weight. Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, State Agency: I have found two things necessary gas checks and hard alloys, also in most cases muzzle velocities over 1,200-1,300 fps. Beginning in the early 1980s both Winchester and Marlin began offering .45 Colt leverguns. 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With the coming of Rugers Blackhawk chambered in 45 Colt in the early 1970s, we finally had a sixgun that could tap the tremendous potential of the 45 Colt cartridge. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. I load 7.5gr of HP38 in Starline brass and crimp in the crimp groove of each of these bullets. The Lyman bullet 452651 GC will cast 20-1 at about 325 grains including gas check. Lyman has a 255 grain .45 Colt gas-checked bullet, #454490GC, that was designed by Ray Thompson who also brought forth the .357 Magnum #358156GC and the .44 Magnum #431244GC. As I have gotten older and my hands have become more tender, I find myself moderating my everyday shooting loads. A Modern rifle should handle these loads equally as well, such as the Winchester Model 94. Lyman now offers it as #452424, and it is a 255-grain bulletor thereabouts, depending upon the alloy used. I'll be a nice to you as you'll let me be, or as mean as you make me be. However, there are two problems associated with it: case capacity and cylinder throat diameters. im leaning towards the ruger blackhawk bisley 45 long cot 5.5 barrel. Due to their reduced velocity combined with greater resistance in the bore, I dont recommend loads that produce less than 750 fps because there is a significant chance of sticking a bullet in the bore. The 45 Colt also predates the 38 Special, the 44 Special, and the 45 ACP, and not only is it more than 80 years older than the 44 Magnum, but it also has more case capacity and in the proper sixguns can outrank the 44 Magnum. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: for Ruger Blackhawk and T/C, levels in the 20,000 to 25,000 range are The revolver and ammunition were officially adopted for service in 1873. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. New Jersey Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: We were soon shooting 300-grain bullets at 1,200 fps from a 7.5-inch-barreled Ruger revolver. The final level includes custom five-shot Rugers and the Freedom Arms Model 83. If you want those speeds and power, buy a .44 magnum. The .45 Colt operates at notably less pressure, produces a slower, more. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. For the 45 Colt, I especially prefer the 250-grain RNFP and the 255-grain SWC. Everything really starts with our Vision, which is:To be the best-run business in America, and the most successful, most respected business in our industry, for the benefit of our Customers. This is a pretty bold Vision, but its absolutely real. Again, a groove diameter of .451 to .452 inch remains standard by all manufacturers. When loaded in the Colt Single Action Army at around 850 fps, it is a most powerful everyday working load. - 9.4 grains Unique Lyman 452460 , 200 gr. In preparation for this article, I pulled from my personal collection a Colt SAA with serial number 16xxx (1875) that slugged an average groove diameter of .450 inch. This same bullet can be loaded to much higher velocity in Rugers large-frame single- and double-action sixguns. In actual weight, Pyrodex is lighter than black powder, being about 80 percent of the weight of black powder. like original Colts. Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: The 9.2 got the best SD and EP, if that means much to you. now im looking for top performance load data to ass to my load data book for this caliber. It also is a most versatile powder as it can be used for standard loads for the Colt SAA and heavy loads for the Blackhawk. Keiths #454424 was an excellent bullet, but it has been improved by Dave Scovill and is offered by RCBS as #45-270SAA. The 1894 Winchester Trappers have a long, strong action and even though the chambers are somewhat over-size, they will handle any load you can normally load in a .45 Colt case for use in sixguns with six-shot cylinders. It has never failed me. Elmer Keith was way ahead of his time in developing everyday working and hunting loads. Deployed military should use stateside address. New Mexico Department of Game & Fish, State Agency: The Lee bullet works well in my Winchester (Miroku) 1873. I normally stay under 900 fps with a 250-grain bullet in Colt Single Action Army revolvers and its replicas. Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, State Agency: However, none of these loads should be taken for granted and should be worked up very carefully. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Deployed military should use stateside address. RF - 8.2 grains Unique Now we are all confused! No purchase necessary. .45 Colt (180-200 grain bullets) .44 Mag (180-200 grain bullets) .38-40 (180 grain bullets) I had hangfires in the .45 Colt with less amount of Reddot. For several years Smith & Wesson cut throats at 0.455 inch or even larger, but now they seem to be running at a more proper 0.451 to 0.452 inch. Not only do the Hodgdon folks offer excellent powders, but also they are simply some of the nicest folks in the industry. It is also noteworthy that many dies manufactured prior to around 1980 fail to size cases adequately to correctly hold .451/.452-inch bullets. I soon developed an appreciation for reliable performance on game using. Originally loaded with 40 grs. IMR Trail Boss, 4227, IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. This database has 6400 loads for cast bullet loads. Members 4.5k Gender:Male Location:Dolores, Colorado Interests:All types of shooting, hunting, fishing, camping. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: It is loaded not by weight, but by volume. Also slugged were guns 121xxx (1887) and number 134xxx (1890) that measured .4515 inch and .451 inch, respectively. Velocities in a test References: Accurate Arms Co. 1996 Reloading booklet Alliant Powder Co. Reloaders Guide (1995) Hodgdons Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester Reloading Components Manual, 14th edition Lyman Piston & Revolver Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. youd need for most critters in the lower 48. These two examples were produced in 1875 (left) and 1887 (below). Balloonhead cases were discontinued around World War II but still show up regularly on handloaders benches. Missouri Deptartment of Conservation, State Agency: A check of Hodgdons loading manuals shows these two powders using the same charge weight produce the same velocities and pressures. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: (I) Giveaway ends February 28, 2023. A huge hit among hunters, it remained popular in deer camps long after the .30-30 Win. moderate recoil and substantially less muzzle report. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. That is, until I tried IMR 4227 with Lymans #452424 and a 20.0-grain load, and that combination produced one-hole groups. Universal is an excellent powder for the 45 Colt with 8.0 grains under a 250-grain bullet duplicating the old black powder load. 45 Colt is a pistol round. Before I discuss handloads for the 45 Colt, we have to acknowledge there exists such a wide range of revolvers accepting the 45 Colt that great care must be used in assembling loads and choosing which guns will safely accept them. Before I discuss handloads for the 45 Colt, we have to acknowledge there exists such a wide range of revolvers accepting the 45 Colt that great care must be used in assembling loads and choosing which guns will safely accept them. 2021. It is my most used powder both in cap-and-ball and cartridge-firing sixguns when black powder loads are desired. In fact, an axiom with me is, When all else fails, try IMR 4227 before giving up. Years ago, after tiring of oversized 45 Colt chambers in Colt Single Action Army revolvers and New Frontiers, I started with a 357 Magnum New Frontier, had the cylinder rechambered properly and tightly to 45 Colt, and then had a new 4.75-inch Colt New Frontier barrel fitted. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. When crimped in its cannelure, the overall length still exceeds industry specifications at 1.652 inches. Massachusetts Division of Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: 9 with 15 gr. Contest void where prohibited by law. This revolver is fitted with a new line-bored cylinder that is tightly chambered with .452-inch throats, a .003-inch barrel/cylinder gap and the forcing cone cut to 11 degrees. Dropping down to 30 grains results in an easier-shooting 835 fps and a group of 1.13 inches. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. On paper, the 357 Magnum was the first cartridge to exceed the 45 Colts muzzle energy, but many knowledgeable sixgunners, Elmer Keith included, believed the 45 Colt actually offered more practical power than the First Magnum. Today, it remains one of our most popular sixgun cartridges. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. When he died in 1862, the company was dedicated to producing the same percussion revolvers. This brings us to powders, and I use a lot of Hodgdon powders. The same load in a Jim Stroh custom 5-1/2 Bisley has the same accuracy with more . And about 1450+fps out of the 20" 454 Puma Levergun. Again using 255-grain factory loads at 860 fps, the .45 Colt reaches a factor of 14.09, while select standard-pressure handloads containing 280-grain bullets pushed to 950 fps factor at 17.17. A Redding Dual Ring Carbide sizing die was used to develop handload data. The 9mm/.38 Lyman #356637 HP is nominally a 124 grain HP version of their excellent 147 grain RNFP for the 9mm Parabellum. When loaded in the Colt Single Action Army at around 850 fps, it is a most powerful everyday working load. (In fairness, many historians maintain that original loads contained 40 grains of black powder with 255-grain bullets, including noted Colt authority John Kopec.) With the 45 Colt, IMR 4227 is almost magical in being able to provide excellent accuracy when other powders will not. For example, the most recent Speer Reloading Manual Number 15 states, Prior to 1945, most .45 Colt revolvers had a bore diameter of .454 inch. Exactly when the .45 Colt factory load containing 250-grain bullets propelled by 40 grains of black powder was first offered is unknown, but it was probably assembled at the Colt factory. None of these loads will work through the action of my Rossi .45 Colt Model 92. Custom five-shooters built on the Ruger Blackhawk, the Ruger Redhawk, and the Freedom Arms Model 83 top the list. Share to Reddit. Actually, we can divide 45 Colt sixguns into several reloading levels, and I have moderated these somewhat over the past several years, with the first two levels being very close together. Most of the accompanying handloads are within industry overall length guidelines at 1.600 inches or less; however, a few loads exceed that length (including Hornadys FTX factory load). Western Powders (Accurate and Ramshot) are about the only ones publishing higher pressure 45 Colt cast bullet data. That is black powder loads or Black powder level only. The charge weight is 9.2 grains. For example, the .45 Colt with a 255-grain bullet at 860 fps (Winchester) generates 419 ft-lbs, while the .44 Magnum with a 240-grain bullet at 1,180 fps (Remington) generates 741 ft-lbs. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Note: Powder Mfgs. In contrast, Ruger only revolver data uses slower powders like IMR 4227, Win 296 and 2400, and 250 gr velocities in the 1350-1450 fps range. Oregon Trails 250-grain RNFP over 8.0 grains of W231 clocks out just under 1,100 fps with three-shot groups of 1" or less. It basically started in the early 1870s as a round-nosed bullet given a slight flattened nose. I especially like the 260-grain Keith gas-check bullet which shoots exceptionally well using #4227, 20.0 grains is 1,115 fps for 5/8 and then it gets even better! It's always had a great reputation as a man stopper. For the .45 Colt my standard load is 5.5 grains of Clays, which gives from 780 fps to 840 fps depending upon the sixgun used. While only sporadically available as a component, the Remington .456-inch 250-grain lead hollowbase bullet will obturate to minimize bullet tilting. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. This load will certainly handle deer-sized game. When the Marlin and Winchester Trappers first arrived in the early 80s, the #1 45 Colt bullet was still Elmer Keiths #454424 weighing about 260 grains from my alloy. However, Dick Casull started with the 45 Colt single action and the weak 45 Colt case to come up with his cartridge, which eventually became the 454 Casull. However, I crimp the #45-270 over the front band to ensure trouble-free feeding. If your Hornady book says 45 Colts use a 458 bullet, they are wrong. In the large .45 case, a large difference has been noted in speeds. There were no 45 Colt heavyweight bullets available at the time, so we sized down 300-grain 45-70 bullets in several stages, going from around 0.460 inch to 0.452 inch. This Colt SAA .45 was manufactured in 1893 and saw extensive use on the frontier prior to being professionally restored. This significantly improved its accuracy when compared to the original cylinder with its typical oversized throats, and resulted in increased velocity. The SCAR 15P is chambered for 5.56 NATO and, with its 7.5-inch barrel, is the most compact SCAR to date. They are my choice for the heaviest loads especially with cast bullets weighing 300 grains and heavier. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. So both the up and down positions were closer in speeds and the spreads were noticeably closer. We switch now from the use of PC (Powder Coated) bullets to cast bullets. By the standards of the day when it arrived in 1873, and even to this day, the 45 Colt was and is a powerful cartridge. The Oregon Trail 250-grain RNFP bullet should be seated with an overall cartridge length of 1.570 to 1.580 inches, depending on case length. www.hodgdonreloading.com Broc NES Member Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2010 To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The company also distributes IMR and Winchester powders as well as Goex black powder. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Deployed military should use stateside address. 454190 (255 grains) shares a similar profile as the original Government bullet but is a plainbase design that is generally very accurate and can be sized to around .454 to .455 inch for guns with larger throats. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. That brings us to the next level, which includes 45 Colt revolvers built on the Ruger Super Blackhawk frame and the Ruger Old Model Blackhawk, the arrival of which led to two separate load sections showing up in loading manuals. The Freedom Arms Model 97 also is in this group. Using bullets from . Survival, Banned, Training, Load, reloading, powder Collection folkscanomy_defense; folkscanomy; additional_collections Language English. This same bullet can be loaded to much higher velocity in Rugers large-frame single- and double-action sixguns. .45 Colt Rifle Data (Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th Edition) reloading data with 0 loads. I would think that the load you are using would be safe. I chose the Herco powder to utilize as much case capacity as possible. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Wolfe Publishing Company | 2180 Gulfstream Suite A | Prescott, AZ 86301. Handgun Reloading Data .45 Colt 9mm Luger .32 Smith & Wesson Long .32 ACP .357 Magnum .44 Magnum .41 Remington Magnum .460 S&W Magnum .38 Special .327 Federal Magnum .357 SIG .25 Automatic 10mm Auto .500 Linebaugh Powder Data Accurate 5744 Hodgdon Extreme Powder Alliant Reloder 15 Norma Powder Ramshot Powder Accurate Powder Vihtavouri Powder I didnt realize how many different powders from Hodgdon I use in loading the 45 Colt until I began putting this article together. With the coming of Rugers Blackhawk chambered in 45 Colt in the early 1970s, we finally had a sixgun that could tap the tremendous potential of the 45 Colt cartridge. Elmer Keith was way ahead of his time in developing everyday working and hunting loads. For example with the 4-5/8" Ruger Blackhawk, I use the NEI 310-grain Keith bullet over 21.0 grains of WW296 or H110 for 1,125 fps in the sixgun and 1,445 fps from the Trapper Barrel. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. ew eginnings - Mark 7 is now part of the Lyman family! Keith bullet, the Lee 452-255-rf 250gr bullet and the RCBS 45-270-SAA for .45 Colt. .449 inch to .460 inch, and Smith & Wessons from .451 to .458 inch. There are some excellent jacketed bullets available for use in the 45 Colt, including the Sierra 240-grain JHP, Hornady 250-grain XTP-JHP, and the Speer 260-grain JHP, all of which I prefer for deer-sized game. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. 2020, Lyman Products Corporation, printed in U.S.A. All other trademarks in this catalog are the property of their respective owners. you use any of these loads listed below with STARS (*). Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: They are my choice for everyday use and also for hunting larger, tougher game. Instead of being overly large, Rugers have been way too tight, with some measuring around 0.449 inch, but now Ruger is cutting all cylinder throats at 0.451 to 0.452 inch. Others are the New Model Blackhawks, the Bisley Model, the Redhawk, and the Super Redhawk. Below you'll find some basic data for each cartridge to help get you started. Starting load is 12.4 grains and top load is 15.4 grains of Blue Dot. For comparison the above .44 Magnum factory loads (which are admittedly conservative) have a TKO factor only slightly higher at 17.35. The original loading was a bullet of approximately 255 grains with a muzzle velocity of somewhere around 850 to 900 fps. HS7 is slowest of the group (Similar to 2400) It shoots VERY well, the recoil is tolerable, and it cuts a clean hole in both targets and small game. Rim Rocks 255-grain SWC with gas check is accurate and alleviates leading issues with revolvers (or barrels) that are prone to that. It didnt take long for manufacturers to offer heavier bullets, and two of the best came from NEI. Not interchangeable. By the standards of the day when it arrived in 1873, and even to this day, the 45 Colt was and is a powerful cartridge. Two other powders for standard loads include W231 and HP-38. You can certainly use the Jacketed bullets fine, but dont look for incredible speeds. I can not find any reliable load data for Blue Dot with cast bullets. The Colt factory has told me these large throats are intended to keep chamber pressures low, which is nonsense. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. In 1935 we entered the Magnum Sixgun Era with the arrival of the 357 Magnum; however, long before that we had the 45 Colt. Heavy loads that are safe for use in the Ruger Redhawk would destroy a fine Colt SAA. I have dozens of references from credible sources that state pre-World War II Colt revolvers feature a barrel groove diameter of .454 inch while postwar guns measure .451 to .452 inch. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. It has many additional virtues, primarily its big-bore performance and reliability. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. It is impossible to go wrong with the 45 Colt. They are my choice for everyday use and also for hunting larger, tougher game. S.A.A.M.I. Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. The 45 Colt rim is smaller than the rim on a 45 Auto Rim. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: This revolver and cartridge proved to be a great teacher as I learned how to shoot a big-bore single-action sixgun accurately. They do provide identical results of muzzle velocities and pressures using the same charge weights, and I use them interchangeably. A favorite pastime of many dedicated sixgunners is sitting around a campfire arguing the merits of their particular choice of caliber. I soon added single-cavity molds for the .45 Colt and .38 Special. So if one used 40 grains by weight of Pyrodex when the chart called for 40 grains of black powder, the result would be an overloaded charge. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, State Agency: There are now 25 states with so-called Constitutional carry and Florida appears to be approaching permitless carry, which translates to more citizens S&W Set The Bar For Magnum Handgun Performance 50 Years Ago. In my opinion, throats that measure .452 inch are generally ideal with a variety of bullets. Two other powders for standard loads include W231 and HP-38. Note that the Ruger New Vaquero uses a smaller frame and cylinder Contest void where prohibited by law. Their 10mm Devastator (Lyman #401638 HP) has a listed weight of 155 grains, and is a HP version of their very accurate 175 grain TC design. All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), Hi=670, Lo=521, ES=148 (too slow, wide spread), Hi=677, Lo=594, ES=8.3 (too slow, but good spread), Hi=673, Lo=594, ES=80 (too slow)(old formulation), 833 Hi=873, Lo=783, ES=90 (old formulation), 866 Hi= 890 Lo=855 ES=35 (good Cowboy load), 836 fps (powder pointing UP) (Hi=877.7 Lo=803.0 Spread=74.7 fps), 771 fps (powder pointing DOWN) (Hi=783.1 Lo=760.3 Spread=22.8 fps), Hi=622, Lo=491, ES=131 (WAY too slow-stuck bullet possible)(old formulation), Hi=750, Lo=735, ES=15 (good spread, should have used more powder), use 6.1 to 6.8 for normal Colt 45 loads (old formulation, use 7.7 to 8.6* for +P Ruger and T/C Only (old formulation, 871 Hi=938 Lo=797 ES=141 (Colt Anaconda 6), 1024 MAX+ (Actual in 7 1/2 bbl 250 gr. Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: Alas, the days of gun departments in grocery stores, department stores and drugstores are long gone. Joe Kurtenbach and Caleb Giddings also look at the first-ever optics-ready carry revolvers with the new Taurus 605 and 856 T.O.R.O. Using a 250-grain cast bullet, 37.5 grains by volume of Pyrodex P results in a very potent 987 fps and a five-shot, 50-foot group of 0.88 inch in my revolver. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Later production revolvers and lever action rifles are built with .451 diameter grooves., This statement has been repeated many times but holds very little truth. In actual weight, Pyrodex is lighter than black powder, being about 80 percent of the weight of black powder. Moving up to the second level, loads at around 1,000 fps with the same-weight bullet are used in the Colt New Frontier, Smith & Wesson Model 25/625, Ruger Flat-Top New Model, and the Ruger New Vaquero. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet (1995) Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and personal loads where noted. For several reasons they should not be used. Addeddate 2019-02-27 13:08:05 Identifier LymanReloadingHandbook48thEdition2002Ocr_201902 Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t9093sd5t Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) This is a plain base bullet and I found out very quickly it was not very accurate in either rifle. In part one of this series we saw the history of .45 Colt leverguns, which turned out to be quite recent, beginning in the early 1980s. No purchase necessary. RCBS also offers an excellent bullet of standard weight with the #45-255KT that has a better crimping groove than the Keith bullet. The Freedom Arms Model 97 also is in this group. in pistol calibers than the old. On the other end are the Ruger Only loads. Nebraska Game & Parks Commission, State Agency: 11; firearms used: Universal Receiver & Ruger Blackhawk; barrel length: 7 1/2"; twist: 1-16"; groove dia.
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